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Spok

Sat 29 Mar 2008 : 10:31

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Location: Camarillo, CA
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For those who don't frequent PKNA

Animus wrote ...
Parkour is a beautiful thing, but the landscapes we use are public domain, and they are not only there for us. Where I train in Hamilton, it is a city renowned for its pollution and smog. One particular training spot is in the heart of downtown, and is some of the worst areas in terms of broken glass, random crap sprawled around, and just a general and unpleasant view. Even the nearby parks are in terrible shape. These aren't areas that are secluded. Our training ground is also the practice ground for skaters, bikers, rollerbladers, runners, the homes of the homeless, shopping centres for the middle class, a place to leisurely walk for the elderly.

As I'm leaving Hamilton soon, I want to leave it in a better state than it was in when I walked into it. I want the Parkour community here remembered for not just being some kids who [censored] around on the structures, or even dedicated athletes, but also a positive force in the city; a positive force for the youth and an asset to Hamilton's culture. What I propose is that sometime during the month of April, since more people, traceurs or otherwise, get outside and enjoy the weather and enjoy the environment, we should try to make it a better place for all of these people. One weekend in April, I will be getting together the Hamilton traceurs, ready with gloves and a whole lot of garbage bags, we're going to pick up all the litter in our downtown training spot, from the mall to the library to the city hall, court of justice, and park. We will go so far as to pick up individual shards of glass, because they're simply dangerous. And once every trace has been cleaned, then we'll jam and have a great time.

I want April to be the month that traceurs all over the world make their communities a better place for everyone. I would love to hear stories from each of your communities, see pictures, watch videos. With no reward of recognition, no acknowledge for what we have done, let us go in and help our communities out. Let us be useful. Let us use our abilities to climb to the lesser scene corners of our cities, and even clean those up, because they collect garbage like magnets! And for a month, let us unite in this initiative, and be a global community, and make the entire world a better place for all who would enjoy the outdoors this spring and summer.

cak010

Sun 30 Mar 2008 : 14:29

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I think this is a great idea!
We've all trained in places that could use some cleaning.
Let's start thinking of a day for this and some spots and then do it. We don't all have to meet in one spot as obviously we are all pretty spread out. However, we could do this in a few spots around the state.

[ Edited Sun 30 Mar 2008 : 14:30 ]

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TRun17

Sun 30 Mar 2008 : 15:31

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I was thinking about doing this as well at my school, wasn't thinking about doing it so early, but at the end of the year, when my training there will become minimal. I wanted to make a vid of us cleaning off all of the black skid marks at my school :)

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Techniques alone are no good if you don't support them with strength and flexibility." - Bruce Lee

Spok

Sun 30 Mar 2008 : 17:10

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For Camarillo I have scheduled one next weekend for hopefully all of the spots located in the city lol.

Wildstyle

Tue 01 Apr 2008 : 00:07

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I think that is a great Idea! For those of us that train at Balboa Park on the weekends we should make some time to clean up all the spots we regularly train on.

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Tue 01 Apr 2008 : 13:22

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i help clean up the Ballona Wetlands in the Marina and parts of the LA River that runs thru Culver City down to the beach with my Capoeira School :D i should get a do not hassle card frrom the popo. We are setting up another volunteer cleaning sometime this April i'll keeps ya'll posted if anyone is interested :D

Ben K.

Tue 01 Apr 2008 : 14:23

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:) This thread shows a massive difference between the US and the UK.

This thread was posted on UF.com with mixed feedback, alot of negativity and pesismism though. Here, everyones positive and pro-active. Ace.

Ben K.

"In Parkour, you are not cool because you can do a big jump, you are cool when you have worked hard to do a big jump." - Andi

Tue 01 Apr 2008 : 15:50

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Location: mostly Montreal (QC, Canada), UCLA /Westwood area also
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This is a great idea! And I can think of a quite a few of places around UCLA that we have used pretty heavily. We'll need scrubbing brushes for those spots...

[ Edited Tue 01 Apr 2008 : 15:51 ]

cak010

Tue 01 Apr 2008 : 17:43

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@ Ben K. - Really? I can't even think of anything negative about it. The only thing I can think of is people just not wanting to participate, but I assume those people wouldn't be negative about the idea. What sort of negative stuff and pessimism was being said?

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StutterStep

Thu 03 Apr 2008 : 02:25

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keep the place where you jam clean, it makes sense. it's like cleaning your room... sort of, just bigger.

Spok

Mon 07 Apr 2008 : 18:50

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Whoops edit. Thanks for pointing it out Cliff lol.

(new video coming soon)

[ Edited Mon 07 Apr 2008 : 20:03 ]

leche09

Tue 08 Apr 2008 : 17:40

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wow, i visited the uf site just to see, because, like all of you, i couldnt see negativity in the idea. but its surprising how the communities over there have such a grand 'not my problem' attitude. there were plenty of supporters however, and im sure they'll do plenty enough to help their training areas

Take me to a place where we can touch the stars....

ACE

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 02:45

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Cliff asked: "What kind of negative stuff was being said?"

From UF (surprise surprise):

"
If I'd been with the guys in Lisses when they were painting the walls, they'd have found themselves covered in paint and being kicked up and down the road for basically being twats."

"I can only see bad things happening from opening a can of worms like this and being green traceurs."

"Whoever painted Lisses is a prune."

-link-

Wow.... that really worries me... I certainly hope most of the UK scene isn't like that

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orem

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 03:46

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oh jeez some of those posts made me sick

TRun17

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 03:51

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ACE wrote ...

Wow.... that really worries me... I certainly hope most of the UK scene isn't like that

Don't forget, UFF has vids up on youtube called "Parkour tutorial: sideflip", "Parkour tutorial: backflip", aerial, wallspin etc. etc...

Training for strength and flexibility is a must. You must use it to support your techniques.
Techniques alone are no good if you don't support them with strength and flexibility." - Bruce Lee

Spok

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 10:49

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Wow, it is like UFB is full of realistic morons or something. They let the idea of parkour be defeated so easily just because it is reality. Talk about no backbone, cheers to the dudes in the UK that actually still do care.

orem

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 18:15

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Spok wrote ...

Wow, it is like UFB is full of realistic morons or something. They let the idea of parkour be defeated so easily just because it is reality. Talk about no backbone, cheers to the dudes in the UK that actually still do care.

i wouldn't call it realistic.... i'd call it ideal-less

but less talk, more cleaning! ;)

[ Edited Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 18:21 ]

Ozz

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 19:49

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Good lord! I just read a comment from ez, who I'm assuming is the ez, and he is a total prick! Geez, people get good intentions and actions mixed up with selfishness. It's like if they are to lazy or self-righteous to be considerate of other people's property then so be it, they don't have to help, but don't knock on those who are charitable and selfless. I hope karma bites 'em in the [censored]. Any who, lets be sure to clean the places we train and better our environments for ourselves and others.

skyfire1129

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 20:29

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Wow, holy crap. Is it so horrible to help the world to feel better about yourself? Everyone tries to do nice things so that they are more liked. Whats wrong with trying to do a little good in the world. Even if your motives are for outside reward.

I don't care if someone didn't give a sh*t about how I feel and does nice things for me so that I like them. They are still doing nice things for me, why should I care what their motives are. As long as they aren't hurting me in the end.

The negativity over there is unbelievable! What got shoved up their asses anyway? Geez, who gives. Just let them be.

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N o F l o

Sat 12 Apr 2008 : 23:53

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Amazing that some could perceive a negative angle on such an overwhelmingly positive idea! (I think there might possibly be some jealousy involved as well) Selling out pk = selfish! Promoting pk in a positive way = selfless!

more profound comments, they speak for themselves:

"In the real world, people that do stuff for free get taken advantage of. "

"Personally, I wouldnt start a call to arms to unite freerunners as a volunteer organisation. I got into Parkour because it was fun and exciting. Not to be a labourer."

"Get real. Help eachother train, leave it at that. Your not the [censored] peace core."

"Roadsweepers of the world unite."

[ Edited Sun 13 Apr 2008 : 00:03 ]

" Train parkour for yourself first. If people like it or not, who cares? As long as you feel good doing it. " --David Belle :: ALL FULLERTON LOCATION INFO. IS IN 1ST POST ON PAGE 1

Ben K.

Sun 20 Apr 2008 : 12:43

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Glad to see everyone posting the reactions I had to reading the UF site. Sadly the UK is becoming increasingly like that. I wasn't there "from the beginning", but over the last three years I've watched the changing views and attitudes, and in my opinion, it's really going downhill.

Some of the freerunners I trained with steal drinks/ leave litter everywhere we trained, so I've stopped training with them, theres also a constant pressure now to showoff, which never used to exist. I'm not slagging off everyone in the UK, but as a general trend, in my opinion, it is going downhill (bring on the summer and SD :)).

Ben K.

"In Parkour, you are not cool because you can do a big jump, you are cool when you have worked hard to do a big jump." - Andi

Ifrit

Fri 13 Jun 2008 : 17:04

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Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 : 14:56
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Posts: 320

I would love to do one of these in San Diego, although I'm trying to come up with a spot that needs it the most. Balboa is pretty well taken care of. Anyone have any suggestions?

"Your mistakes do not define you, they tell you who you are not." - Brad Arnold

Ben K.

Mon 16 Jun 2008 : 15:05

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There was the first PKday in four years yesterday in London. And in terms of this campaign, it was an absolute disgrace! Everyone took free UF stickers and were stamping them around the place, and left wrappers floating around. Local traceurs posted up complaining, not good. I completely agree with the "leave no trace" attitude, I don't see why anyone would be against it.

Ben K.

"In Parkour, you are not cool because you can do a big jump, you are cool when you have worked hard to do a big jump." - Andi

pfg003

Fri 07 Nov 2008 : 10:55

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whens the next clean up?

sdpkfun

Tue 13 Jan 2009 : 09:13

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Location: San Diego
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We should have a session to clean up around balboa. Especially at the wall by the butterfly garden.

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