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Stumpy

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 20:25

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so... its happened. or at least suspected of happening. I did not hear the entire story but on channel 3 at 6:00 a story came on of a kid in elk grove who i believe fell to his death during suspected "risky activity."

i guess the kid was scaling the side of a several story high staircase and slipped.

they dont have any proof yet that the kid was definitely doing pk but from what the story said, they are pretty sure of it. they were asking people if they heard of pk. they were interviewing parents who were saying "i cant believe these kids think they can do things like this and not get hurt."

so it sucks that the kid died, but i dont really know what to think about it... the kid was doing something stupid. thats obvious. i saw the picture of the building's staircase he was climbing and i dont think anyone would have tried it. it was huge.

so any thoughts? the broadcast was bashing parkour as an "extreme sport" but we really couldnt expect anything less. should we email them and talk about our point? or should we leave it be and hope it blows over?

the story

my thoughts go out to the familly.

[ Edited Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 20:28 ]

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Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 20:28

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got a link? or at least more info for us to find the story to verify this?

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Stumpy

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 20:37

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9 A.D. wrote ...

got a link? or at least more info for us to find the story to verify this?

above. :)

Mitsuneto00

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 20:37

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I dont know what we should do but as soon as we decide ill help in any way i can, my regards are to the family, and i personaly would never do those stairs, ever

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Lonnie

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 20:49

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Posted this on SFPK to see if he was related to the community in any way.

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DANNYC

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 21:16

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That totally sucks.

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kenshin9909

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 22:15

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holy [censored] Thats like 9 miles from where i live....
Heart goes out to family.. I've driven by that building a few times and i always thought of training there but never all the way up.

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Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 22:18

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this hurts so much to hear about, i feel like we lost a brother. damn he was way to young to die, this really sucks to hear about.

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Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 22:21

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sucks that the family has to suffer the loss of a child.

don't do ridiculous crap. period.

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Bboyease4

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 22:40

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yes my sympathies for the family

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A good freind will help get you to the hospital. Your best freind will pick you up, dust you off and and ask you "Ready to try that again?"

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Stumpy

Mon 02 Nov 2009 : 23:27

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Liquid wrote ...

Posted this on SFPK to see if he was related to the community in any way.

he might be, but you would think he would be closer to us. wasnt it right near sac or something? the news report said that there was a group of people from sac that goes out every wednesday, maybe hes part of them.
i dont know their name or anything. maybe ill check meet up, see if neone knew him.

i almost feel like a mermorial meet would be cool, but it might just provide a reason for people to blame us...

darkmeta

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 00:05

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im sad to hear that the kid died, i wonder how this will affect public opinion about parkour?

Juxta

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 00:16

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Sorry to hear of the loss.

While it is never good to hear of someone's death involving a practice of yours, I don't understand why people all point the finger at parkour itself. Parkour didn't leap out from behind an air-conditioning unit on the roof and shove the kid off the building. He made a choice to attempt something highly dangerous (at least that's what it sounds like) that was most likley well above his ability and/or common sense. I would never atempt a jump like that unless a freakin werewolf was chasing me or something.

Responsibility is a must in parkour. They need to blame his momentary lack of better judgment, not the practice.

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thatoneguy

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 01:33

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Juxta wrote ...

Sorry to hear of the loss.

While it is never good to hear of someone's death involving a practice of yours, I don't understand why people all point the finger at parkour itself. Parkour didn't leap out from behind an air-conditioning unit on the roof and shove the kid off the building. He made a choice to attempt something highly dangerous (at least that's what it sounds like) that was most likley well above his ability and/or common sense. I would never atempt a jump like that unless a freakin werewolf was chasing me or something.

Responsibility is a must in parkour. They need to blame his momentary lack of better judgment, not the practice.

so true, your post reminds me of when i was on a road trip with my friend and his grandfather and when we hit traffic the grandfather said "alright who's to blame for this traffic, there is always somebody to blame or point the finger at." He was kidding and just trying to have some fun with us but it is true, people are always looking to point the finger, especially when something as tragic as this happens. And the kid was scaling or training on the building when he fell so im not all that suprised that alot of people are pointing the finger at us because the general misconception with parkour that alot of people believe is that we love to train on rooftops and from high up on buildings.

EDIT: this isnt good in the least bit guys, this article on the kcra website is already the most read article and most watched piece on their website.

[ Edited Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 01:44 ]

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Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 01:47

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^ that's because we have been reading it...

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loco89

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 01:50

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here is a link to the kids death in sacramento which th kids school is down the street from me. the news is trying to BLAME parkour as the reason for him falling to his death. oh and the name of the article is

Parkour Investigated In Teen's Death

[link]

Beretta

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 02:10

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A few members of SFPK (including me) met him at a 5K he ran with us for Susan G. Komen for the Cure, other than that I don't think he regularly trained with the active and close-knit community in Sacramento, who are some of my closest friends in the world and a great group of dedicated and safe practitioners who freely give their time to teach newcomers the right way. We're all very upset by this tragedy. Though this loss is tragic no matter what the cause, we remind everyone that at this time there is little evidence and the cause is unknown.

My thoughts are with the family. It is never easy to bury the young and the worst thing I've ever seen is a father eulogizing his teenage son.

Rebel_City_4K

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 10:42

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That sucks. But if he was doing parkour...can't blame anyone but one's self. Last Saturday I went to a DTLA session with PKLA...dude scaled the outside of a stairwell...I looked at it. Thought about. Considered it. Took the stairs. Mom told me once common sense isn't common...but self preservation should always kick in. Thoughts and prayers for the family...but its a fatal reminder to evaluate the obstacles you navigate while TRAINING.
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Bboyease4

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 11:21

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Wow, i had a lot of sugar last night, I'm stupid. and its early morning so im still a little stupid but whatever.

One of the first things in the article was "his close freind called him a genius", well if he was, what he was doing was not the brightest thing. There making it seem like people who do pk promote this kind of thing. Okay there are some skilled people who could do that, but they typically train and prepare for something like that. Read how they describe parkour. The paragraph that they describe it with says "it could be potentially lethal". Okay well most anything can be potentially lethal, hell you can roll out of bed and break your neck, but what the kid was doing was definitly not under the lines of "to be safe and endure". Yes this was a terrible tragedy, and my thoughts and sympathies go out to the family, but they shouldn't go blaming the pk community for something like this.

Stumpy

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 11:41

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because it is america and everyone needs a person or thing to blame. there was a story a few days ago where a kid got hit in the head by a baseball (he was pitcher) and died.
the familly is now blaming the baseball bat company because the aluminum bats are too powerfull. they are trying to get aluminum bats banned for good.

it sucks that the kid died, but this gives us even more of a reason to teach people. maybe we should do a dedicated to teaching session?

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Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 13:09

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@alex- touche!

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DANNYC

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 15:56

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That was somebody's child too.

We do not know if he was training PK or not when this happened but I don't want to hear any jokes made about his death. We train pretty smart but if something was to happen to you or Ty or Aaron, I would not allow anyone to make jokes about it. That just ain't cool.

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ShadowNegative

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 17:35

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Less hate guys! I don't know the kid but I do feel bad for the family. Only 15...wow. And yes no jokes. Whether people are joking or being serious about what they say, I can only pray they hear what they are saying and learn from themselves. I'm not going to try to fight fire with fire, not on this topic.

freerunningpk

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 20:14

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he was actually a good friend of my buddy spencer's

true, nervous...very dreadfully nervous

kenshin9909

Tue 03 Nov 2009 : 20:36

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Franklin high is in my crosscountry teams league, so ive raced this guy, or maybe not depending if he was varsity or not. But I think that all traceurs in sac/elkgrove should try and get kcra to meet us and we can show them what parkour truly is not what theyre painting it out to be.

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