PKCali - Parkour California: Forums / Parkour Discussion / Parkour and freerunning?

Anti-Competition

Please Click and Read

Random Image

"NinjaBoy - Sunset Handstand"

[Parkour Images]

Welcome Guest

Search PKCali - Parkour California

Affiliates

Parkour California

PKCali
THE Parkour resource for California.We are everywhere:
- Los Angeles
- San Diego
- San Francisco
- Orange County
- Riverside
- Sacramento
- Stockton
- San Jose
- Central Valley

and all over the rest of this great state!

PKCali - Parkour California :: Forums :: General Parkour Talk :: Parkour Discussion
<< Previous thread \| Next thread >>


Parkour and freerunning?

Author

Post

Tcat

Sat 28 Nov 2009 : 14:05

Registered Member #2067

Joined: Tue 13 Jan 2009 : 18:01
Posts: 547

I thought i'd share my personal feelings with you guys on this topic. I've noticed a lot of mixed opinions of this topic, and i hope to have an end with this posting.
Recently, MTV's "ultimate parkour challenge" has started a big controversey on whether this show is twisting the truth, or revealing it. I've noticed that some of you guys believe that parkour is what you want it to be, competition or no competition. It's funny because this is one of the only boundaries separating parkour from freerunning...
Truthfully, what was it that truly got into your mind and picked at it with the "ultimate parkour challenge"? I think it's because how wrong they portray parkour. As stated in other posts, they basically show the philosophy and throw in daredevil jackassery into this. I also believe that there isn't anything wrong with competition, but as how you compete. I mean, look at that show, they all care and cheer for each other, and i love that. People also saying things as "ohhh, you did a backflip, you are a freerunner" how old are we? Six??? Look at David Belles videos, i saw b-twists, backflips, and gainers in those videos. It helps through flow. Nothing wrong with flips in parkour.
Now i spent a few hours in my room mixing these thoughts together. Because believe it or not, i am in a freerunning group, as labeled, but i want to keep parkour pure. I came up with a simple solution: Don't put competition in parkour. Leave it into freerunning. I fully support the "keeping parkour pure" side, that is why i am a freerunner. I want to make a career through this, go into shows and such, like Tempest, even stuntman or such, possibly even go to the "Barclaycard's Freerunning championchip". But i respect parkour enough to keep it pure. To leave it's philosophy alone. So i switched my side to keep another pair of eyes from corrupting parkour. Are you afraid with what is going to happen? There is nothing wrong with freerunning! Please, keep parkour pure!
It took me a week to sum up the courage to post this, because i know how mixed our beliefs are. I am open to anyone's opinions. Just think about this, that's all i am hoping for.

Check our team, Diversity Freerunning out:
Click it!
Parkour and fishing: Necessities of life
It's time to do da potty dance!
Ditto.

"The moral of the story is...That no matter what you do, time is always ticking away. And i believe we should all aspire to fulfill our dreams. Anything is *possible* to those who are willing to try"-Chase Armitage

-Dev-

Sat 28 Nov 2009 : 14:43

Registered Member #16

Joined: Fri 23 Dec 2005 : 01:14
Posts: 1821

Tcat wrote ...

I've noticed a lot of mixed opinions of this topic, and i hope to have an end with this posting.

Mission accomplished.

Jackal

Sat 28 Nov 2009 : 14:58

Registered Member #2164

Joined: Mon 02 Mar 2009 : 14:12
Posts: 757

-Dev- wrote ...

Tcat wrote ...

I've noticed a lot of mixed opinions of this topic, and i hope to have an end with this posting.

Mission accomplished.

Haha, yeah... Not to be rude, Taylor, but it seems like you're just feeding the flames. The post itself is working against your intentions.

NAME: Jacob Seil
LOCATIONS: Orange County (HB)
EMAIL: ParkourJackal©gmail.com
CELL: (951) 836 - 3834 (OK to text)
FACEBOOK: (add Jacob Raul Seil - Send invite with message saying your from pkcali)

~ FIFTEEN CENTS - WILL HELP ME BUY A SANDWICH ~

David Jones

Sat 28 Nov 2009 : 16:01

Registered Member #1719

Joined: Tue 08 Jul 2008 : 11:42
Posts: 1076

The thread on MTV and competitions has already died out... Why start this may I ask?

AKA:The Pennsylvania Traceur
"yeah the more stars you have the better you are at Parkour.." -Taylor
"This community supports PARKOUR, not COMPETITION - Run Without Rivals" -Herbertiste

Youtube Channel
What happens when I read an ignorant post.
--=Forum Rules=--

Tcat

Sat 28 Nov 2009 : 16:35

Registered Member #2067

Joined: Tue 13 Jan 2009 : 18:01
Posts: 547

@ jacob, how is that so? Which part? Sorry, not the greatest writer ever:)
@David, you're probably right, but like i said, it took we a week or so to sum up the facts and courage.

Jackal

Sat 28 Nov 2009 : 18:06

Registered Member #2164

Joined: Mon 02 Mar 2009 : 14:12
Posts: 757

Tcat wrote ...

@ jacob, how is that so?

David Jones wrote ...

The thread on MTV and competitions has already died out.

kasai_kun

Sun 29 Nov 2009 : 14:16

Registered Member #1971

Joined: Thu 20 Nov 2008 : 21:09
Posts: 1367

parkour...free running...tracing...parkouring...ninja-ing...

whatever you wanna call it, call it that as long as your moving thas the main point.

no matter what, any activity is going to turn into a competiton...

look how sk8-ing, breakdancing, Drfting and martial arts all have fallen into the media grinder. They all started as hobbies by a smal # of people and now have turned into sub cultures

With everything, theres going to be pureists, those that live by the unwritten book...and theres gonna be those that are doing it for the "wrong" reasons.

but no matter how many sessions, and "this is what parkour is" vidoes you kick out ppl will always have thier own opinons and you cant chnages everyones opinions...so why bother, just do what you do and leave it at that

/thread

~ Parkour Instructor @ Victory Gymnastics Academy ~
Join San Diego Parkour's Facebook !
Twitter = @SanDiegoParkour
SD Parkour Youtube page

"PHYSICALITY, is nothing without MENTALITY."
- Personal motto

N o F l o

Sun 29 Nov 2009 : 14:31

Registered Member #443

Joined: Mon 11 Sep 2006 : 22:16
Posts: 1416

we have quite a few threads on this already... also good discussions on PKNA,
such as:

not a big fan of the 'just ignore it and concentrate on your own thing' attitude.

thats exactly what people who want to exploit things want you to do. because without opposition they are free to do as they wish.

this does not mean that you should spend all your time opposing whatever. you can still concentrate on doing good things for your local community. but you can also spend time doing something that influences the wider community as well and trys to ask for/find clarity in the goings on of people/organisations that are set up to market themselves and parkour on a mass scale.

from: [link]

however, has everyone seen this, it's been posted many times, the middle is the most interesting to me:
[link]

[ Edited Sun 29 Nov 2009 : 15:05 ]

" Train parkour for yourself first. If people like it or not, who cares? As long as you feel good doing it. " --David Belle :: ALL FULLERTON LOCATION INFO. IS IN 1ST POST ON PAGE 1

Bboyease4

Sun 29 Nov 2009 : 14:37

Registered Member #2133

Joined: Fri 13 Feb 2009 : 14:49
Posts: 254

Tcat wrote ...

I've noticed that some of you guys believe that parkour is what you want it to be, competition or no competition. It's funny because this is one of the only boundaries separating parkour from freerunning...

Sebastian Foucan is against competition as well, just an fyi. niether philosiphy supports the idea of competition. At this point though, I don't care what you call it, its essentially the same thing. Im gonna quit worrying about this and just go out and train.

A good freind will help get you to the hospital. Your best freind will pick you up, dust you off and and ask you "Ready to try that again?"

"I'm not here to tell you what to do. You have your own dreams. I could tell you have to try do this or do that. No, you have your dreams, I'm here to help you. Remember, Follow your dreams" - Advice from Oleg Vorslav

Nobody

Sun 29 Nov 2009 : 16:10

Registered Member #2627

Joined: Sat 31 Oct 2009 : 23:57
Posts: 5

i think without the crowds and the cameras those that participated in ulitmate parkour challenge wouldn't have tried to do a lot of the things that got a couple of them hurt. i don't think you can go through life trying to be better than anyone else. the only person you should strive to conquer, to compete with, is yourself. we are all born different. unless you have a clone of yourself to challenge its really kind of silly.

David Jones

Mon 30 Nov 2009 : 10:22

Registered Member #1719

Joined: Tue 08 Jul 2008 : 11:42
Posts: 1076

N o F l o wrote ...

we have quite a few threads on this already... also good discussions on PKNA,
such as:

from: link

Yeah, the APA is an awesome group.

[ Edited Mon 30 Nov 2009 : 15:10 ]

AKA:The Pennsylvania Traceur
"yeah the more stars you have the better you are at Parkour.." -Taylor
"This community supports PARKOUR, not COMPETITION - Run Without Rivals" -Herbertiste

Youtube Channel
What happens when I read an ignorant post.
--=Forum Rules=--

PKCali - Parkour California :: Forums :: General Parkour Talk :: Parkour Discussion

<< Previous thread | Next thread >>


Jump: Back to top

All content © their respective owners. The content on this website may not be duplicated, transferred, changed, or otherwise manipulated without consent of the copyright holder. The website owners are not responsible for any actions or beliefs of website users. By viewing this website you agree to the above terms. Disclaimer & Terms of Use